Curse

enxa · Mar 05, 2008, 10:34 PM // 22:34

...does nobody want to buy a +29 hp upgrade? or -5/19 for shield, or 19% longer ehcnantments... Why, oh why???

Chik N Nuggets · Mar 05, 2008, 10:35 PM // 22:35

they arent perfect....

Dallcingi · Mar 05, 2008, 10:35 PM // 22:35

Because it is not perfect.
(nuggets beat me)
and perfect is cheaper now than what they used to be.
only people who dont care about it use it or if they are poor they use non perf.

I pwnd U · Mar 05, 2008, 10:35 PM // 22:35

Because everyone has a little elitism in them. They want everything to be perfect. If it's not perfect it's not worth their time.

BladeDVD · Mar 05, 2008, 10:37 PM // 22:37

They are also more common than perfect mods, so players probably already have them, or could easily get them if that was all they wanted rather than pay money for them.

Cherng Butter · Mar 05, 2008, 10:37 PM // 22:37

Skill is important yeah, but you shouldn't really be gimping yourself if you can help it. Use perfect equipment, and then you can worry about skill

Killed u man · Mar 05, 2008, 10:40 PM // 22:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by I pwnd U

Because everyone has a little elitism in them. They want everything to be perfect. If it's not perfect it's not worth their time.

Not me, I stayed alive well over 10 times (2.5 years of play) with 1 HP left. (As a PvP'er)

However, I doubt you'll win/loose a game because of 1%+ on enchants... (Could be tough)

But yeah, for most of the people, it's elitsm... Why have +29 when you can have +30...

Cathode_Reborn · Mar 05, 2008, 10:40 PM // 22:40

Because if im gonna use an item that's permanent, might as well spend a few extra plat to make sure all the stats are perfect.

Same reason why my phys classes don't use uncustomized weapons.

enxa · Mar 05, 2008, 10:40 PM // 22:40

but whats the REAL reason behind 'its not perfect'.

Its not like that 1 hp would make any difference in any battle.

Its quite ironic that people say that in gw you dont have to grind for equipment because it doesnt matter, and then they exert this sort of attitude. Interesting phenomenon.

creelie · Mar 05, 2008, 10:40 PM // 22:40

Because perfect equipment is still cheap.

On a related note, can you imagine how awful this game would be if FoW armor gave 1 more AL than other armors? Just 1 AL.

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Yeah, this is why I stick to GW; I have faith they won't cross that line. Sure, there are PvE titles and skills that flirt with it, but at least those can't be bought.

Quote:

Originally Posted by enxa

but whats the REAL reason behind 'its not perfect'.

Its not like that 1 hp would make any difference in any battle.

Its quite ironic that people say that in gw you dont have to grind for equipment because it doesnt matter, and then they exert this sort of attitude. Interesting phenomenon.

You DON'T have to grind for it. Max anything can be obtained in a matter of hours in PvE, seconds in PvP. And yes, I have sometimes avoided death by a single hitpoint, and seen others do the same.

BlueNovember · Mar 05, 2008, 10:44 PM // 22:44

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How is not taking sub-par equipment elitism?

It's just logic. Either you pay some amount of gold now for something you may even replace in the future, or just pay a little extra for something you'd have no reason to replace.

And yes, I've been infused on ~1hp many a time.

Richardt · Mar 05, 2008, 10:47 PM // 22:47

Like everyone has said it's to have it be perfect.

But TBH when it gets down to the point where you're having to survive by 1 hp, then most of your party is prob. close to dying. Most of my heroes get the "imperfect stuff"-like my Morgahn rocked a +28 shield for almost several months before I got a +30 for cheap. Another spear I rotate on my heores still has a +29 wrapping.

1 HP won't make or break anything, it's just a bit of OCD in the human race.

Inger · Mar 05, 2008, 10:48 PM // 22:48

If anything lots of people are unable to find those +29HP mods or the 19%longer enchanting for sale. Granted thats also a result of not many people wanting them in the first place but still you don't see many people selling those non perfect mods.

Overall its because perfect mods aren't that expensive regardless, you aren't going to break the bank buying them.

Also the non perfect mods are generally found more easily, so if you're willing to use non-perfect mods, you've probably saved them when you found them and then use them when the chance arises.

I know personally I save a +29hp spear mod and just a couple of weeks got a new spear to put it on.

CyberMesh0 · Mar 05, 2008, 10:49 PM // 22:49

perfect items = +1 to e-peen. all else fails.

That's how people think. Doesn't mean it makes sense.

Bohya · Mar 05, 2008, 10:54 PM // 22:54

Me finds it easier to work out sums with perfect mods.

Right off of hand, what would you say was easier to work out?

450 - 341 or 438 - 341 ?

Yeah and it also looks better.

Antheus · Mar 05, 2008, 10:57 PM // 22:57

I find enough 27-29 upgrades in loot, and heroes are perfectly happy with them.

For perfect ones, it depends. +5 energy or 15^50 are easy to find, or at very least, I've got adequate stock. For others, I'll shell out some money, but rarely.

Put simply - if one buys a 100k+ weapon, then shelling out a few k for perfect mod is the least of problems.

Fay Vert · Mar 05, 2008, 11:00 PM // 23:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Killed u man

Not me, I stayed alive well over 10 times (2.5 years of play) with 1 HP left. (As a PvP'er)

That isn't because you happened to stay alive by your last hit point. Its because a game mechanic left you on 1 even though mathematically you should be negative. Being left on 1 hp is very common, and you would still be on 1hp if you had a +30 instead of a +29

enxa · Mar 05, 2008, 11:02 PM // 23:02

Quote:

I find enough 27-29 upgrades in loot, and heroes are perfectly happy with them.

But why arent players?

Jenn · Mar 05, 2008, 11:04 PM // 23:04

I won't deny that one extra hit point has saved my life in PvP. I have hung at 1 HP, and that gave my monkey just enough time to get a heal on me. Having that little bit extra has saved me countless times.

But TBH, I have the perfect equipment because it's perfect

Diddy bow · Mar 05, 2008, 11:05 PM // 23:05

Would you buy a car with a scratch on it?

Considering how cheap and plentiful mods are why not buy the best?